The stormwater pipe becoming submerged during a typical rain event

Video of Red Run Drain rising and submerging the stormwater pipe - meaning water starts BACKING UP in that pipe, SURCHARGING , and leaking into the surrounding soil of houses, creating increased hydrostatic pressure.

Another video of the Red Run Drain completely submerging the stormdrain pipes of Ryan Road

When the stormwater pipe is underwater from the the Red Run Drain / Clinton River, it surcharges causing flooding in peoples basements on Dawson Drive

Just one inch of rain caused 90 MILLION gallons of combined sewage overflow to be released un Dequindre Road into the Red Run Drain flowing right under Ryn Road Bridge. These events SPIKE the volume , raising the height of the water level, ABOVE the stormwater pipe shown in previous pictures.

Ryan Road near the bridge gets standing water, PONDING, because it can not flow into the Red Run Drain. This becomes hazardous for drivers, vehicles, traffic conditions as drivers instantaneously slow down, swerve, hit the brakes, etc. --- The stormwater cannot exit the 5 Lanes of Ryan Road during rain events.

The combined sewage overflow of the Red Run Drain comes from OaklandCounty GWK Retention Basin aka 12 Towns Drain project over in Madison Heights

Detailed underground view of the intersection of the 2 Dawson Drives (one east, one west) with Ryan Road, at the Ryan Road Bridge over the Red Run Drain

The clean purified drinking water flows UNDERNEATH the entire Red Run Drain , as shown in this detailed elevation cross sectional view of the area

FEMA has looked into the area with some interest - as the Red Run Drain has gone over the TOP of the Ryan Road Bridge a few times the past few years

FEMA seems to think the 615 ft mark holds importance -- insurance & real estate folks take note

The FEMA flood panel numbers in the immediate area around Ryan Road and Dawson Drive in Warren, Michigan

What enters the Red Run Drain - The Henry Graham Drain - The North Drain - The South Drain - The Walker Relief Drain - and of course the OVERFLOW SEWAGE jumped the weir portion from the pollution control facility. What gets measured is UNKNOWN even via FOIA requests.

The Red Run Drain STARTS at an elevation of 597 ft above sea level on a very very dry hot summer day ---- It rises quite a bit upward to touch the bridge at Ryan Road, submerging that stormwater pipe from Ryan Road .

Kissing the bridge back on May 2011 . Keep in mind I have to stand in the pouring rain to get these pictures, document the water levels, and create a historical record. I don't do it EVERY time it rains. It happens more often than people might expect or admit to.

The Red Run Drain overflow can reach OVER the bridge as shown in this picture. Ask the Warren Police how often a police car had to be parked At The Bridge as water washed over the top. Numerous instances, repeated occurrences, over many, many years - That stormwater water pipe from Ryan is Submerged several times EACH and every single year - some years water ends up in our basements (that is plural, more than once).

When the Red Run Drain is full -- the additional water from the neighborhoods has no place to go !! It simply can not drain, it backs up, into the homes.

The streets and neighborhood cannot drain once the pipe is submerged. Water finds its own level, and the water will ""back-up"" within the pipe spilling thru cracks into the ground. Hydrostatic pressure increases in the surrounding soil of the surcharged pipe.

Video at ---- https://youtu.be/xlZ4hQUHINA

2nd Video showing submerged pipe --- https://youtu.be/zNPeTjp47Co

Another video showing the level of the Red Run almost at bridge level ----- https://youtu.be/CG3J-UFSt2U

Video from a separate incident of high water (watch the dates) ----- https://youtu.be/cXjhEolkBKM

A view during a FLOOD scenario where the Red Run went over the top of the Ryan Road Bridge :
https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/redrun_ryanroad_august11_2014_warrenmichigan.jpg

With the City of Warren owning the Bridge and Ryan Road just a City Street - Does this need to go the INTRA - COUNTY Drain Board for some action ?

Part 2 of the contact list - names - phone numbers - emails of people involved with the Red Run Drain and street stormwater issues associated with it.

The neighborhood was built in the EARLY 1960's and I knew the Fantin Family quite well. They owned the Farm House property, next to, the Red Run, and Dawson Drive. The stormdrain pipe INTO the Red Run, has been there a long long time, - with little thought, foresight, or future consideration that it WILL BE eventually Submerged, UNDER the water line, SURCHARGING, backing up, unable to drain anymore . It's 2019, time to make things right for a modern neighborhood. The concrete streets were replaced, what about the rest of the infrastructure ??

A view of the old Fantin Family FarmHouse as it stood next to the Ryan Road Red Run Bridge. No doubt that drainage pipe went thru their front yard, into the side of the banks of the Red Run. There used to be a USGS gauge House next to the Red Run drain as well.

The USGS gauge station is well documented , as it stood on the banks of the Red Run, by Dawson Road and Ryan for quite some time -- https://redrundrain.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/red-run-and-ryan-road-usgs-gauge-station/

The map of the stormwater drainage is also well documented via the USGS - showing the InterConnection of the OaklandCounty Drainage funneling into the Red Run Drain .
I've already done 1/2 the research needed for officials to fix this issue.

More detail under the National FLOOD map 26099C0314G panel from 9/29/2006 .

When water gets """"stuck"""" it tends to level out , find an opening , to spill,leak, spread.
It could be far, far, far away from the original blockage, restriction, constriction, etc.

Will the Red Run water flow take out the bridge one day....perhaps. Water weighs in a 8 lbs per gallon, and exerts tremendous force when it flows at high rates for extended periods of time.

No matter what - count on water finding a way - to level itself.
A great engineer knows this inherently, and uses it,
to his/her advantage - via a Water Level over great distances.
It can also come back to bite those who overlook it. !!!!!

Now, even MORE stormwater will enter the Red Run , before Ryan Road --- via the I-75 expansion project

MORE stormwater will enter the Red Run , more volume, higher water levels

No movement, no updates, -- Guess the issue remains OPEN --
Just imagine the combined sewage overflows, going over the Ryan Road Bridge, again.

UPDATE - 12TownsDrain had a CSO event on July 6, 2019 . Must have been a LOT of water from the sky falling with intensity, for a sustained duration, upon a defined location to fill it up, jump the weir, and spill into the Red Run Drain.

A different view of the Combined Sewage Overflow into 7/6/2019

The area by the Ryan Road Bridge near the VFW Hall has had sumped banks for decades, CONSTRICTING flow raising the water UPwards, - yet no one fixed it, dredged it, addressed it - In fact more dirt was PILED HIGH as some hint of action against flooding (except it has a access hole big enough to drive a fire truck through)

How deep is the Red Run at the Ryan Road Bridge ?
From Bottom to 100 year Flood Plain = 615ft - 593 ft = 22 feet of elevation

The Red Run fills to the top - and the Water Table of the community goes with it !!!!

Stormwater/Sewage event into Red Run causing it to rise substantially , BLOCKING the rainwater drain opening from Ryan Road , essentially surcharging, backfilling into the neighborhood.

Magic number 613 ft above sea level -- HARD RAIN - StormRunoff INTO WARREN

Exact detailed SEWER underground map, check, got that covered.
31943 and 31965 Ryan are interesting AMERITECH ???

Straight from the Mayor of Warren - Jan. 10th 2020
NO ONE can say I didn't provide prior information
Weather forecasters are predicting a Monster Rain Storm Jan 11/12
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Level of Red Run at Ryan Road at 10:45 am on Sat. January 11, 2020. ALL THE OUTFALLS are submerged along the entire length of the Open Drain Channel

Yes, the outfall is submerged, underwater, surcharged, backfilled, etc., etc. on Jan 11th, 2020 around 11 am on Saturday morning

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Submerged AGAIN - on August 2, 2020 - with Flash Flood Warnings issued from NOAA.
All that water is BackFilled to the same level as the Red Run, about 620ft above sea level.
Many, many neighborhoods have basements below that elevation.

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DIAGRAM OF AREA --- https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/underground-ryan-road-red-run-bridge.jpg

WHEN will it be fixed, addressed, acknowledged, and dealt with. ? I've been quite patient with this issue.

It continually is submerged during rainstorms. Backed UP, surcharged, unable to drain properly, backing up into the ""system"" . This was Friday, Aug 27th, 2021

An official view of the elevations by Ryan Road

The UnderGround view of piping connecting to the Red Run Drain.
The water often rises, far above the pipes, submerging them.
This put the neighborhood at risk during hard rainstorms.

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Just close it - no one wants to act to fix it -