Once again, the lives of kids and teachers trying to cross the street as well as people trying to cross in a car are being endangered at this intersection. What will it take to get the safety issues at this intersection addressed and resolved???! How many times do we need to bring this to the attention of city managers? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just put two more stop signs there making it a four way stop than to keep dealing with complaints and sending out someone to "watch" the intersection like they did last year? Are we waiting for someone to get hurt before we can find the motivation to resolve this??
Stop signs would alleviate congestion here during school hours too. As demonstrated by the pix, folks simply do not heed to the crosswalk or consider the fact their vehicles are blocking an intersection. Both of these daily occurrences make it dangerous for staff and students as well as neighborhood thru traffic after school.
Is there a way for residents to petition the city for a four-way stop? The seventy-five percent approval rate should be easy to win…
We are going to put the intersection in line for a multi-way stop evaluation to see if it meets warrants. If not we may have to contact the school so they can send notices out to the parents. We will let you know once the evaluation is complete.
Thanks for speedy replies! In the meantime is there any way to place a pedestrian or student crossing sign here? The crossing lanes on the roads are painted, but as mentioned vehicles do not seem to honor these designations. Much appreciated!
The evaluation for the multi-way stop at Marlborough & N. King Charles is complete. None of the primary criteria were met while only one of the optional criteria was met and that in itself is not enough to warrant the multi-way stops. We have asked for a school crossing guard evaluation for that intersection. The intersection issue seems to occur only during drop-off and pick-up at the school so a crossing guard may be a better solution than stop signs. Once that evaluation is done we will get back to you. The data from the evaluation is noted below.
Primary Criteria:
Future Location of Signal:
No signal scheduled for this intersection.
Five Correctable Crashes in a 12 month period: No correctible crashes in the last 12 months.
Minimum Volumes:
300 VPH over an 8 hour period:
200 VPH combine vehicle, pedestrian and bicycle:
Reduced criteria based on vehicles exceeding 40 MPH:
166.1 vehicles per hour over 8 hours, Warrant not met
91.1 vehicles per hour over 8 hours, Warrant not met
85th% = 36.0 mph, Reduced criteria warrant not met
Optional Criteria:
Need to control left turn conflicts: No
Need to control vehicle and pedestrian conflicts: Yes
Sight distance issues: No, Checked 9/13/2012
Intersection of neighborhood collectors: No
Recommendations: Deny the requests for multi-way stops at this intersection but request a school crossing guard evaluation.
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Vanessa Van Horn (Registered User)
Acknowledged City of Raleigh 3 (Verified Official)
Jessica Bowen (Guest)
Vanessa Van Horn (Registered User)
Stop signs would alleviate congestion here during school hours too. As demonstrated by the pix, folks simply do not heed to the crosswalk or consider the fact their vehicles are blocking an intersection. Both of these daily occurrences make it dangerous for staff and students as well as neighborhood thru traffic after school.
Is there a way for residents to petition the city for a four-way stop? The seventy-five percent approval rate should be easy to win…
City of Raleigh 3 (Verified Official)
Vanessa Van Horn (Registered User)
City of Raleigh 3 (Verified Official)
The evaluation for the multi-way stop at Marlborough & N. King Charles is complete. None of the primary criteria were met while only one of the optional criteria was met and that in itself is not enough to warrant the multi-way stops. We have asked for a school crossing guard evaluation for that intersection. The intersection issue seems to occur only during drop-off and pick-up at the school so a crossing guard may be a better solution than stop signs. Once that evaluation is done we will get back to you. The data from the evaluation is noted below.
Primary Criteria:
Future Location of Signal:
No signal scheduled for this intersection.
Five Correctable Crashes in a 12 month period: No correctible crashes in the last 12 months.
Minimum Volumes:
300 VPH over an 8 hour period:
200 VPH combine vehicle, pedestrian and bicycle:
Reduced criteria based on vehicles exceeding 40 MPH:
166.1 vehicles per hour over 8 hours, Warrant not met
91.1 vehicles per hour over 8 hours, Warrant not met
85th% = 36.0 mph, Reduced criteria warrant not met
Optional Criteria:
Need to control left turn conflicts: No
Need to control vehicle and pedestrian conflicts: Yes
Sight distance issues: No, Checked 9/13/2012
Intersection of neighborhood collectors: No
Recommendations: Deny the requests for multi-way stops at this intersection but request a school crossing guard evaluation.
Vanessa Van Horn (Registered User)
Closed City of Raleigh 3 (Verified Official)
As noted above, there was a 4-way stop study done, and the intersection did not meet the criteria for installation. Traffic calming could be an option. Please review the information on this page: http://www.raleighnc.gov/services/content/PWksTrafficEng/Articles/NeighborhoodTrafficMan.html
and if you need more information contact Tom Fiorello (thomas.fiorello@raleighnc.gov 919-996-4066)